And Screw John Ashcroft Also, While We're At It
Today is Wednesday, 25 February 2009.
Follows a comment on my column of yesterday, and thank you "ranting and raving", because you are not --- you speak plain truth:
ranting and raving has left a new comment on your post "Happy Marbury v. Madison Day!":
To keep you apprised of what your State Legislature thinks of the judicial branch (and I apologize in advance for the length of this comment):
Oklahoma Senate President Pro Tempore Glenn Coffee [who is a lifelong lawyer - HH], alleging that the Oklahoma Bar Association has lobbied against tort reform and for abortion, is pressing SB997 which would make membership in the OBA voluntary for Oklahoma attorneys. Never mind that the OBA was created in 1939 by order of the Oklahoma Supreme Court and is part of the third branch of government. (Who cares about constitutionality?) Never mind that the dues paid by Oklahoma attorneys pay for things that the Legislature would doubtless still require (e.g., attorney discipline, continuing education). [Okie Repugnicans would require discipline and education? --- dream on! - HH]
An aside: the "lobbying" for tort reform was pointing out U.S. Constitutional issues; the lobbying for abortion is an outright lie.
Our Republican representatives are also pressing for a state constitutional amendment to require the OBA to submit all rules for approval of the Legislature, including professional conduct, Supreme Court Rules, District Court Rules and Rules of Judicial Conduct. Another constitutional amendment would require all judicial appointments to be subject to the consent of the Oklahoma Senate. I can't wait to see the results of those amendments, our legislature is already such an efficient and effective body.
Do you think the Legislative Branch wants to eliminate the Judicial? It's fairly clear they want to eliminate lawyers. There are numerous other bills pending that affect the legal profession and the rights of citizens in the judicial system.
While most people I know would rail at their compensation for egregious injury being arbitrarily limited, and would loudly proclaim their rights to an attorney in a criminal proceeding, it's so popular to hate all lawyers that I fear few will even make a peep about the proposed bills in the legislature. And when lawyers object, the majority of Oklahomans will sneer at "trial lawyers" and applaud the efforts of Coffee and his cohorts.
[Yes, Mr. Repugnant Republican: let's rid ourselves of all the lawyers, including you, and establish a real Uncle Joe Stalinist legal system: Ms. and Mr. Okie, do you wish to stand naked before a system where no one defends you, where the judge, the stooge of The State, is beholden only to The State, and Devil take the hindmost?]
I really don't understand how our elected law-makers have so little respect for the law and those who make the legal profession their lives' work. [mayhap corrupt pricks? - HH] And while I don't think being a lawyer should be a requirement for being a legislator, our laws would be less convoluted and more sensible (not to mention just) if there were a few more legislators who actually understood the law and its consequences, and weren't just pushing their own agendas.
I will be contacting my Senator and Representative in an attempt to reason with and educate them. I know I'm out of step, foolishly admiring, say, Thurgood Marshall, the ultimate trial lawyer before he became a Supreme Court Justice.
Hope you don't mind my use of your blog for a little rant and rave. Anyone who would celebrate Marbury v. Madison day (besides being a scholar) must have an appreciation for the law.
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Funny: I'm a sort of Emma Goldman old-school anarchist in many ways, which means, as a bridge to the Promised Land, I'll appreciate the temporary tolerance of certain rules of law.
And Mister Coffee, a damn weak blend if you ask me, wants to control the Judicial Department, hell, boy, one day, ya'll term limit out, and, just maybe, your worst enemy runs the Senate and approves the judges. And then where be you?
Follows a comment on my column of yesterday, and thank you "ranting and raving", because you are not --- you speak plain truth:
ranting and raving has left a new comment on your post "Happy Marbury v. Madison Day!":
To keep you apprised of what your State Legislature thinks of the judicial branch (and I apologize in advance for the length of this comment):
Oklahoma Senate President Pro Tempore Glenn Coffee [who is a lifelong lawyer - HH], alleging that the Oklahoma Bar Association has lobbied against tort reform and for abortion, is pressing SB997 which would make membership in the OBA voluntary for Oklahoma attorneys. Never mind that the OBA was created in 1939 by order of the Oklahoma Supreme Court and is part of the third branch of government. (Who cares about constitutionality?) Never mind that the dues paid by Oklahoma attorneys pay for things that the Legislature would doubtless still require (e.g., attorney discipline, continuing education). [Okie Repugnicans would require discipline and education? --- dream on! - HH]
An aside: the "lobbying" for tort reform was pointing out U.S. Constitutional issues; the lobbying for abortion is an outright lie.
Our Republican representatives are also pressing for a state constitutional amendment to require the OBA to submit all rules for approval of the Legislature, including professional conduct, Supreme Court Rules, District Court Rules and Rules of Judicial Conduct. Another constitutional amendment would require all judicial appointments to be subject to the consent of the Oklahoma Senate. I can't wait to see the results of those amendments, our legislature is already such an efficient and effective body.
Do you think the Legislative Branch wants to eliminate the Judicial? It's fairly clear they want to eliminate lawyers. There are numerous other bills pending that affect the legal profession and the rights of citizens in the judicial system.
While most people I know would rail at their compensation for egregious injury being arbitrarily limited, and would loudly proclaim their rights to an attorney in a criminal proceeding, it's so popular to hate all lawyers that I fear few will even make a peep about the proposed bills in the legislature. And when lawyers object, the majority of Oklahomans will sneer at "trial lawyers" and applaud the efforts of Coffee and his cohorts.
[Yes, Mr. Repugnant Republican: let's rid ourselves of all the lawyers, including you, and establish a real Uncle Joe Stalinist legal system: Ms. and Mr. Okie, do you wish to stand naked before a system where no one defends you, where the judge, the stooge of The State, is beholden only to The State, and Devil take the hindmost?]
I really don't understand how our elected law-makers have so little respect for the law and those who make the legal profession their lives' work. [mayhap corrupt pricks? - HH] And while I don't think being a lawyer should be a requirement for being a legislator, our laws would be less convoluted and more sensible (not to mention just) if there were a few more legislators who actually understood the law and its consequences, and weren't just pushing their own agendas.
I will be contacting my Senator and Representative in an attempt to reason with and educate them. I know I'm out of step, foolishly admiring, say, Thurgood Marshall, the ultimate trial lawyer before he became a Supreme Court Justice.
Hope you don't mind my use of your blog for a little rant and rave. Anyone who would celebrate Marbury v. Madison day (besides being a scholar) must have an appreciation for the law.
_____________________________________________
Funny: I'm a sort of Emma Goldman old-school anarchist in many ways, which means, as a bridge to the Promised Land, I'll appreciate the temporary tolerance of certain rules of law.
And Mister Coffee, a damn weak blend if you ask me, wants to control the Judicial Department, hell, boy, one day, ya'll term limit out, and, just maybe, your worst enemy runs the Senate and approves the judges. And then where be you?
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